Bishop Michael Curry and historian Tyler Anbinder open by discussing how immigration shows up inside American congregations — including a striking 19th-century example of Irish and Italian Catholics clashing over who belonged in the main sanctuary. The conversation turns to the biblical command to "welcome the stranger" (traced back to Leviticus) and the very human, often "reptilian brain" instinct to distrust newcomers. Curry shares a personal story from a Buffalo congregation, where competing national flags from different immigrant communities had to be quietly moved to the back of the church — a small liturgical choice with real theological and social weight.